All things to do with the M.A. in Medical Sciences Program at Loyola University Chicago.
Thursday, January 8, 2009
Welcome to Loyola!
Welcome to Loyola's M.A. in Medical Sciences Program. You can use this Blog site to communicate with fellow MAMS students about: moving to Chicago, finding a place to live, finding a roomate, finding places to eat near campus etc.
Edgewater for proximity to campus, a few in Roger's Park, though it's not the most student friendly, or safest. Some live in Wrigleyville. Given what I know now about the Chicago area, best place to live is a few stops down the Red line at Berwyn or Bryn Mawr stops, in Andersonville. Quiet little residential neighborhood, and not that expensive (newly rehabbed 3 beds for $1550). Although it's entirely up to whether or not you want to commute on the train, or even by car if you had one.
Thank you for your interest in the MA in Medical Sciences Program. The average age of our students is early to mid-twenties. Additionally, we don't have admissions interviews and admissions is based on the materials supplied in the application. Also, graduate student housing is available (click here for details: http://www.luc.edu/reslife/llcs/#grad ). Most students, however, decide to get an off-campus apartment. It is common for students to apply to the MAMS program in their glide year or if they've been unsuccessful in previous med school applications. I hope this information helps, but if you have more questions, don't hesitate to call or email us.
Lizette Yackle Administrative Assistant to the Program Director Master of Arts in Medical Sciences Loyola University Chicago 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. Chicago, IL 60626 Office: Damen Hall Rm. 330D Phone: 773-508-3285
Is it true that while those with a 3.5 are guaranteed interviews that the majority of them are rejected from Loyola. Can you give me a percentage of how many students get into Medical School in the United States the following spring right after graduation from the MAMS. For example If I were to join the program in Fall 2010, What are my chances of entering medical school in the UNITED STATES in Fall 2011?
Hi, Applications for the August 2010 incoming class will be available Jan 1, 2010. A link saying “Apply Now” is always on our website but it only goes live after Jan 1.
The most successful students in the program in terms of admission (to SSOM or otherwise) have a solid MAMS performance, an MCAT retake with improved performance if needed, and dedicated clinical volunteering/community service portfolios. Our successful students live in the small world of class, library, hospital, community service center. Our SSOM connection is not a "backstop" interaction, you need to use your MAMS year to develop the most compelling application in a dedicated and driven fashion.
Usually about 50% of our students qualify for the interview in terms of incoming MCAT and MAMS GPA, a fairly high number of those students with active "year of MAMS" applications get admitted to medical school and withdraw from consideration, and so ultimately 15% to 20% of the class is admitted depending on year. But with an overall admission rate ranging between 80-95% from cohort to cohort almost all students not admitted to SSOM end up in a wonderful medical school.
This program is not for the student looking for the "backdoor" to medical school. Our approach is helping you become the student, scholar and volunteer you need to be to enter one of many medical school front doors, and then become a committed and highly successful M1 student. We are a program of challenging learning and individual transformation...keeping with Loyola's Jesuit educational ethos.
We help our students understand that success in life is about asking what more we can do, how else can we change, what more can we sacrifice. So we really are about internal drives and committment..not external forces and chance, because it is our experience that students that have their internals right ultimately succeed. I hope this helps you decide which type of program is best for you. Our high success rate is ultimately due to the spirit and drive of the young people who make our MAMS community special.
That was a very insightful and well thought out answer! I have never wanted to attend MAMS more than I do now. The only thing holding me back is I wanted to clear something up. If I enter the program this upcoming fall and re-apply to med school when applications come out in early June, What is the chance I can start med school in fall 2010? What confuses me is that I will essentially be applying with the same application as last year except now, I would be able to put that I have the intent of doing the MAMS, Will this help me at all? Will med schools even take this into consideration considering the fact that I haven't proven anything yet and I have no grades from the program yet?
Hi, I just applied to the MAMS for fall 2009 and I was wondering how big the class size is. I suppose I'm wondering what my chances of acceptance are based on how many people apply and how many seats are available for this program. Thanks for your help!
Hi, Sorry I have been a slow blog correspondent lately, I hope to do a bit of catch up....
Re. the question: " What is the chance that I can start med school in fall 2010..." So we describe this as "a year of the program" application to medical school. We usually discourage these types of applications because, as the poster notes, medical schools won't have solid evidence of a good academic turn around or Chicago clinical experiences..so not much will have changed since the previous application. We strongly encourage students to apply using Loyola's pre-health program at the end of their MAMS program. The combination of MAMS plus the Pre-Health Advising Committee is fantastic for helping students build their best applications. Students who have active applications coming into MAMS obviously don't benefit from doing our PHAC advising process (it starts in February for the June AMCAS application) and their application, key advising contacts and letters are all through their undergraduate institution...
Now...with the above being said, students who apply during MAMS do have a ~60% success rate for medical school admission but..these are usually not to their first choice schools...so..patience really pays off. Taking the glide year after MAMS is a fantastic learning opportunity and the students who use the program in the way it is designed (also being excited about studying for an MCAT retake if needed)do fantastically well. This year we have our first admit to Boston, students have just gotten in at UCLA, University of North Carolina, Iowa, Colorado etc. etc...but they waited, went full bore into volunteering, MCAT prep (often starting in September!!) and MAMS class study, and came out of the program as fundamentally different student applicants in the eyes of medical schools. So..we really are a glide year program, and you really will do tons of volunteering and MCAT prep, if you want the best chance of admission to your dream school in the year following MAMS...but if for whatever reason you must have an active application while you are in MAMS we will help the best we can, do mock interviews with you and offer advising if your undergrad institution isn’t well prepared to do this (a surprising number aren’t, we know), etc..but you are almost certainly limiting your horizons. Trust us and trust yourself, you can do well in the program, you can have dramatic changes in MCAT scores (we have routinely seen students go from, for instance, 28 pre MAMS to 33 post MAMS, with diligent study) and you can develop Dr. Pickett’s patented and licensed “Facultative Maniacal Focus on Study and Volunteering” :-) as you engage with MAMS and your classmates on your path to medical school.
__________________________________ Re “I might graduate” You are certainly welcome to apply and put summer as your graduation date. A May or June take of the MCAT is OK…but often our class if 80-90% filled by that point. I still encourage you to apply however because we will start your file review and because some of our admitted students inevitably get admitted to medical school very late, so we do sometimes have a few seats that open up late in summer.. Thus although pushing things later will make admission to the program less likely, we have certainly found room for students in some years.
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Re “I just applied” The class size is limited to 55 students, very rarely, because we have a high percentage of acceptances from students who are admitted, we will overshoot a tiny bit and allow one or two extra students. Last year we had 680 applicants, our average MCAT was right at 30.8 and our average science GPA was a 3.4…currently we are one of the most competitive SMS/MAMS programs for admission in the U.S. However, we are always looking for the “person for others” whose excellent character, volunteerism, and community service harmonizes well with Loyola’s Jesuit mission. So…remember that “average” means there is a distribution and that numbers alone (as long as you surpass our minimums) don’t dictate our admission decision. Be sure to follow our website instructions about your application to the program carefully, to give us the best chance of understanding you fully as a candidate. Please, (please!)complete your application as early as possible, we are still experiencing 30% year over year growth in application numbers (we should hit 800 applications this year) so getting your file complete early is important.
Well, Thank you all for your awesome questions, I hope the above helped…Warm regards, Dr. P.
I have already sent my letters of recommendation via my school's letter service and I did not realize there was a sheet for the letter writers on the application website. Is this crucial or will my letters be okay just being sent without that sheet?
Hi, I am very excited to apply to this program as I have heard many great things about it and I have high hopes to become a part of the upcoming class. I am planning to take the MCAT in May, and I have seen above that taking the MCAT in May is considered a little late as 80-90% of the class is filled at that point. But you did mention that you will start a file review - Does this mean that if I send in my application by April but without the MCAT score, it will be reviewed, but maybe put on hold for a final decision until my score is reported in June?
Letters that arrive independently of the cover sheet usually end up in your file just fine. However, definitely e-mail the nice folks at gradapp@luc.edu to check for sure. Your application is not assembled by my office...it is assembled at "Graduate and Professional Enrollment Management" (whew...aka Graduate Admissions)so they can tell you what is and isn't in your file.
re. "My MCAT is going to be later" well it can certainly reduce your likelihood for admission...but sending an application in early means we see it and you can add to it. Unfortunately some folks wait until after July 1st to even submit their app...and then things get extremely problematic...so apply early but let us know in your statement that another MCAT is on its way.
Thanks for your reply! I'll definitely be applying early as possible then and send my MCAT score when it arrives - This is a great blog and I will definitely return!
I'm glad I found this blog - It has been really helpful, thank you!
I'm interested to hear what kind of volunteer efforts and projects students of the MAMS have been involved with? I am not from Chicago, and am wondering what strong community connections are available to aid in the “Facultative Maniacal Focus on Study and Volunteering”?
Also, I can see the benefit of a "glide" year after the MAMS program...what do students usually do to support themselves financially during that time?
If I am taking my MCAT at the very beginning of May, would you recommend applying for the priority deadline of May 15 if I have everything else but that score ready to go?
The scores for the June 18 MCAT are tentatively scheduled to be released July 21 (per AAMC). Even if I had my application (sans MCAT score) in by the middle of this April, is a July 21 MCAT score release simply too late for fall 2009 admission consideration? I know you are already touched on this above, but my score would arrive after the app deadline (July 15). Same question if I took the July 2nd MCAT (score release, Aug 4th).
Additionally, could you comment on if the MAMS admissions committee averages GPAs from baccalaureate work and post-baccalaureate work? If one of the two GPAs (either undergrad or post-bac) is under a 3.0, how is a situation like this handled? If this were the case, could published clinical research and a long record of clinical volunteering help the applicant? The Loyola MAMS website appears to be clear that any GPA lower than 3.0 will not be considered.
Dr. Pickett...from deep in writing letters of recommendation :-)
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Dr. Pickett…deep in writing letters of recommendation…says
Hi folks, sorry for the delay,
Note to Amanda,
The volunteering projects and programs that the MAMS students have been involved have an interesting “Red Line of the Elevated” character. Students routinely volunteer at: Community Health Clinic http://www.communityhealth.org/volunteers/ Children’s Memorial Hospital http://www.childrensmemorial.org/friends/vol_res/becoming.aspx Weiss Memorial Hospital http://www.weisshospital.com/community/volunteer.cfm Evanston Hospital http://www.northshore.org/clinicalservices/homehealth/hospice/default.aspx?id=4959 Old Irving Park Community Clinic http://oipcc.org/AboutusENG.html Saint Francis Hospital http://www.reshealth.org/sub_sfh/sfhservices/service_detail.cfm?rhcServiceID=139 Illinois Masonic Medical Center http://www.advocatehealth.com/immc/about/volunteer.html and many other uiversity and community hospitals and clinics.
On a side note, we provide opportunities to meet volunteer coordinators for area hospitals and clinics during our orientation program. It is great to reach out to these groups when you first arrive at Chicago to begin the volunteer orientation and training process. It can take up to a month to get trained!! So start early. As a caution, we do not provide “canned” volunteering experiences as feed back from admissions deans tells us they tend not to place a high value of experiences that don’t speak to each student’s drive and dedication to service. But we provide tons of information and encouragement as you build the unique volunteering experiences that speak to how you care and who you are.
In addition to clinical volunteering our students have volunteered at numerous Chicago organizations that provide homework help, food services, literacy training, AIDS clinic babysitting, Cancer Hospice and other types of community service. Opportunities to serve in Chicago are literally limitless. Students who are dogged in pursuing volunteering opportunities have wonderful clinical and community service portfolios by the time they leave MAMS.
Glide year students work locally and nationally as: Research techs, Clinical Studies coordinators, Educators, Pharmaceutical Reps, Hospital workers, Rehabilitation Assts. Etc…we have heard of tons of opportunities that our students have been able to pursue. The job market is clearly challenging right now, but our students have an outstanding history of success in this regard. The admissions cycle is still ongoing…so we don’t know for sure what the ultimate number of students admitted to SSOM will be. Currently the 2007-2008 class has over 75% of students admitted to medical school…and so they are on track to an outstanding admissions season (Go MAMS 07-08 if any of you are reading!!! yay teamMAMS!!). Each class does vary and each student depends on their own motivation and efforts for ultimate success…but MAMS has proven to be a great vehicle for our usual highly driven students to find success in medical school admission and in developing the tools and knowledge needed to succeed in medical school. I wish I could “calculate the odds” for each student but…ultimately it comes down to individual drive, focus, determination and guts…coupled with our academic and advising program…so, hope that helps.
Always complete as much of your application as you possibly can, as soon as you possibly can. State in your personal statement for the application that you are doing a May MCAT take. The scholarship committee can’t consider you until you are admitted, and we can’t admit you without your MCAT score…but…getting everything else together is extremely important. Scholarship decisions are not made until later in summer, and so even if you are not a scholarship priority candidate a good scholarship outcome is still possible. If you are admitted get the scholarship form in ASAP and stress you “persons for others, Jesuit mission”ness and be as detailed as possible about family and individual need. All grad students have $0.00 banked but stress your financial history. Get your FAFSA in pronto as well
Admissions is done looking at students as “the whole package”…however program minimums really are minimums and the class has, on average, solid GPA and MCAT scores. A GPA below a 3.0 is not admissible to our program, per instructions we must follow from the Graduate School. We use all courses, undergrad and post bac to calculate an aggregate GPA, and we calculate science GPAs following AAMC/AMCAS guidelines. This is something that adds considerable time to our review process…as we research and review courses in each student’s transcript. If the overall GPA is below a 3.0 we don’t even get the file for review, it is triaged because of the admission standards of the Graduate School, so our reviewers don’t get the opportunity to weigh things like clinical research and volunteering. Students in this situation are well served to consider as an alternative to MAMS repeating the core “MCAT minimum” courses from their undergraduate program at another four year university, and then applying as returning students to medical school. We can help you demonstrate that one “C” in organic as an undergraduate was not who you are as a student, but we aren’t the right program if you have mostly Cs in science courses…our program requires a stronger academic foundation, and we don’t believe in setting students up to fail.
Well, I hope that helps, thank you for all your excellent questions.
Hello all potential MAMSers. Dr. Wasserman has turned over this Blogsite to me. I am the Graduate Program Director for the M.A. in Medical Sciences at Loyola University Chicago.
Hi again! I have a question about the letters of recommendation: My recommender would like to send the letter directly to the program. At the bottom of the recommendation form in the application, it says that the letter should be sent to the student with a signature across the sealed envelope flap. Is it possible for her to just just send it directly to the MAMS program? If so, what is the mailing address? Thank you =)
For any recommender who would like to submit a letter directly to the MAMS program, they can send the letter to:
Graduate Enrollment Admissions 820 N. Michigan Chicago, IL 60611
Also, any other materials that a prospective applicant would like to submit via mail should be sent to that address as well. If you would like to submit a document electronically, it should be sent to gradapp@luc.edu.
If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to call our office or email us.
Cordially,
Anwar Akhras Administrative Assistant to the Program Director Master of Arts in Medical Sciences Loyola University Chicago 6525 N. Sheridan Rd. Chicago, IL 60626 Office: Life Sciences Research and Education Building Rm. 343 Phone: 773-508-3285
Dr. P....answering housing questions..already!
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Hi Folks, I have had a number of room mate requests. There are two popular appt buildings right north of campus, here is their contact information. Both have good reps, i.e. new faculty have stayed in them as short term housing, last year MAMSters liked them etc.
1026 & 1006 W. Loyola Ave. (773) 386-7178 Studio & 1 Bdrm Apts
I thought I would also toss up a web URL from students last year who found this appt. building to be convenient. It is also across from the Metropolis cafe, which transforms mere coffee into ambrosia daily.
http://www.thesovereign.com/default.htm
Good luck with the hunt, I will post other ideas as they pop into my brain.
Actually, to give my fellow caffiends something to anticipate with relish (my office has my espresso maker in it, I am an addict, but admission is the first step to healing) here is metropolis' web URL. Trust me, yum! Neighborhood is "OK" by Chi-town standards but extremely close to grocery shopping, own red line stop, two blocks from awesome lakefront park..etc. Like all parts of the city, caution and friends are good to have around you when you travel :-).
Can MAMS students live in the Lakeshore campus residence halls? If so, which ones are most suitable (IE most popular among MAMS students, closest to campus).
I have been accepted to the special masters program at both Rosalind Franklin and Loyola and I was wondering if someone could share their insight on how these teo programs stack up. This kind of info doesnt appear to be readily available.
But most find much cheaper and more convenient housing by sharing in Rogers Park. I notice above just started a Yahoo Group...leave a roommate request there. Also you can leave requests on this board as well.
In terms of comparing RFUMS and our program...I leave that to other folks...our program is not based in a med school and is focused around student collaboration and support. We have a dedicated advising staff that serves only our program, so between me, our advisor and the program assistant we are serving only 55 students...so there is lots of personal attention to student needs. Our courses are exclusive to MAMS students and so there is a very collegial and supportive atmosphere.
You mentioned that the bare minimum GPA is 3.0. Is this an automatic computerized elimination of all GPA's below that threshold, or is it possible to consider a GPA of 2.996 ?
I have a question about GPA calculation. If you attended two undergrad colleges, do you combine both GPAs to get total GPA or are they reported separtely. Mine was just under the 3.0 cutoff at the college I graduated from and well above 3.0 at the other. If I combine them, then I am above the 3.0 cutoff.
I have a question, My science GPA is a 2.79 and my overall gpa is a 3.24, I have yet to take the MCAT but was wondering, if the 3.00 cutoff was for science/cumulative or either?
For those of you already accepted for the 2009-2010 school year, we have a facebook group started. Either search for "Loyola MAMS 2009-2010" or copy and paste the link below.
Dr. Pickett…buried in applications under review…
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Hi folks, sorry! The blog has not been getting required love lately, we are in our major application crush right now and are trying to get the last group of admits done over the next month or so. Hopefully I can do a bit of catch up.
A 2.996 GPA would likely be curved by our graduate school…if you have a strong MCAT and excellent volunteering alert us early about your application. It is not a very strong GPA in relation to our pool of admits…but if “the rest of the story” is you are a fantastic applicant it is possible. The best thing to do is complete the application and give me lots of warning..communicating early and often with the program at MAMS@luc.edu is important in borderline cases.
Our 3.00 cut off applies to the overall GPA, although we look strongly at both total and trends in the BCPM. Historically the means for both grades in the program have hovered right around 3.25…so a 2.79 would be in the bottom half of the lowest quartile of the average MAMS class.
All undergraduate transcripts are used to calculate grades, we follow the AAMC AMCAS guidelines for grade calculation.
On the MCAT side it is very difficult, a 25 really is our rock bottom minimum for review of an application. Given the fact that a 30.9 is the average of matriculated students for medical school (this is also close to the MAMS program average) a student with a 25 really needs to be outstanding in every other category to be competitive. We really try to be holistic in our reviews, but more than a standard deviation below the mean of admitted students means the student is looking at something like a p of .025 for being interviewed for allopathic medical school. Certainly a strong stated commitment in the application about your plan for MCAT prep during the MAMS year (we encourage students with below the mean MCATs to prepare for the exam over the nine months of the program) would be extremely important in this case. Often students don’t even address their strengths and weaknesses in applications, which is confusing to us and I certainly encourage this, particularly for applicants with grades and scores near our program minimums. Hope the above offers some helpful insight into our processes…good luck 2009 applicants!!
Aloha everybody! My name is Jake Halvorsen. I am a recent graduate of LUC and will be in the MAMS program for the 2009-2010 school year. I thought I would leave myself open for questions as well, considering I know the LUC system pretty well. If you have any questions about the Rogers Park area, move in questions, or just general Chicago questions, please feel free to e-mail me at jhalvo1@luc.edu or jhalvo1@gmail.com. I will check this quite frequently so feel free to post on here as well if you have any questions! See you all very soon!
Dr. Pickett...melting in 85 degree heat...
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Hi Folks,
Here is the course list for Fall...if you haven't seen my newsletter yet. Don't forget to alert me or gradapp@luc.edu that you have decided to accept your admit to the program. That triggers a flood of useful info...
BIOL 409, Advanced Genetics, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 9656
BIOL 452, Human Anatomy and Physiology, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 6838
PHIL 471, Medical Ethics, Section 002 SEM, LOCUS course number 9188 (you must use this number, the course appears as BIOL 401 on your transcript)
BIOL 410, Advanced Cell Biology, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 9657
Have an excellent day, and "welcome!!" to all of the folks who have accepted an offer of admission recently!! I look forward to meeting you during orientation!!! Dr. P.
I am a nontraditional student and do not live in Chicago area. I am interested in the program, but need to talk to someone involved in the MAMS program and someone in financial aid to help make my decision to apply. I can make a trip to Chicago as early as July 12-14th 2009.
We generally assume that the "MCAT minimum" courses (i.e. two semesters of organic plus lab) have been completed..primarily because how these courses prepare you for our coursework in Cell Biology and Biochemistry. We will however look at all applicants...it is not a hard and fast requirement.
Because of the huge number of applicants and small size of the program staff (plus our summers are when our committee letters for previous students are composed etc.)and the fact that only 55 seats are available in the program we have not really been able to realistically do an interview process after our first year...The numbers of applicants are simply overwhelming. If you give us a heads up about dates we can certainly arrange a campus tour and can occasionally chat with visitors, I really worry that students making a special trip to town to chat will be disappointed that they aren't greeted by an extensive interview process, and will usually have questions answered that are already answered by our detailed and comprehensive program and university web materials. We will also chat with folks by phone if their questions aren't already addressed by our extensive website, this blog, or our other resources, however, and will chat in person if schedules mesh. Sorry to be a bit offputting...but 800 candidates individually interviewing one Dr. Pickett, mostly during May, June and July just isn't workable..so contacting us with questions by e-mail first or phone is best. I understand the urge to come and "kick the tires" but the best thing I can point to is the wonderful success of our past students, and my assurance that if we admit you we have seen the qualities that we can help you develop and build into a medical school application with a high probability of success. Further, at this point we would only be able to accept a late application with an extensive justification of the reason it is late...The deadline to accept admissions is approaching rapidly. The deadline for completing the admission process was July 1st...of course if you are interested in admission for Fall 2010 those applications "go Live" on January 1st, 2010.
I would like to ask whether or not anyone would recommend the Sovereign apartment complex 2 blocks south of the Lakeshore campus? If anyone has useful information about it can you please share it with us? Thank you!
The Sovereign is not a bad place to stay at all. Our class had 5 of us staying there. It's very convenient being close to campus, to the Red line, and to several of the bus lines.
http://www.thesovereign.com/apartments.htm
Pros: The renovated hotel is a cool place to live. They have 24/7 door security and maintenance. Electric and water are paid for with your rent. Management is usually accessible and willing to help. Rent is competitive for the area if you don't get lake view. Walking distance to Dominicks grocery store, dry cleaners across the street, Metropolis coffee shop, and a video rental store. Close to a Zipcar parking lot, if you need a car occasionally but don't want to bring your own. Lakeshore biking and running trail head is 0.5 mile south.
Cons: It is an old building, so phone lines (and DSL lines, if you go that route) are good, but not excellent. Maintenance can be a bit sloppy and tends to rush repairs. Parking sucks in this area. $105/month for residents. $20/night for guests to not park on the streets. The neighborhood can be suboptimal as well: many homeless people beg near the Red line stop, and female students have been targets of muggings and attempted muggings in the area, especially at night, though I've never been bothered.
I had a positive experience at the Sovereign and would recommend it.
Loyola grad office sent out an email today regarding buying our text books for the upcoming semester. They included a link to the Loyola bookstore, but if you go there, no listings exist for the fall semester. Unless, someone can post a list of books that are used by each class, getting text books will have to wait.
Our new bookstore won't have the list available until July 27th, under their new system faculty submit book requests to them directly. Given summer, and some of our faculty being out of the country, unfortunately I won't have a list before the bookstore posts it...so we are all waiting until July 27th. Sorry, I know this is a concern, I have already had a few e-mails. My book in Genetics is Human Molecular Genetics 3rd edition from Garland publishing....but in terms of the other books...no info.
I was hoping that you could give me some advise on my situation. My application for the program is still under review, and I have a pending acceptance from another special master program that I need to send in a deposit to confirm my acceptance very soon. However, loyola is my top choice so I am not sure if there is anything that I can do at this point to help my case. Please let me know. Thank you
Anyone looking for last-minute housing, we're trying to get a 3 bedroom place this weekend. Call 214-602-1770 or 760-634-2898. I am Colin, the other guy is Mike.
Can we buy our textbooks a week before class when we move in, or do we need to order them online in advance in order to guarantee they will be in stock?
I wanted to get it out that we have awarded the MAMS scholarships. This was exceptional year for applicants, and our decision ended up being to award partial scholarships to six students. These awards exhaust our available funds. Thank you to all enrolled students who applied.
I will be moving to town on August 18th. If anybody is moving in after that and is looking for moving help, just let me know. If you're looking to hang out, I will be happy to do that as well. My phone number is 847-738-0101!
I will also be moving to town on August 18th. I'm still looking for a place, so if anyone's in the same boat give me a call. I've mostly been looking for rooms on craigslist, but I would be willing to live with other MAMS students if anyone is still in need of a roommate. I'm coming from Portland, OR so Chicago's going to be a big jump for me. Give me a call if you need a roommate or if you just want to hang out before classes start (916)342-0194.
Greetings. I was recently accepted to the MAMS program (this morning, actually), so I'm kind of in a time crunch to get things in order with respect to living arrangements.
I'm wondering if anyone is still looking for a roommate in an area near LUC. Please contact me at diabecktic@gmail.com; I can give you my phone number afterwards.
Hi Everyone! I wanted to know if anyone was from California and had Kaiser health insurance. Were you able to get a form from Kaiser saying that they would cover medical bills and expenses even if you are living in Chicago? Just curious!
Can I apply to Loyola MAMS program if my AAMC BCPM cGPA is 2.79? My AAMC AO cGPA is 3.64 and my Total AAMC cGPA is 3.17. However, I am planning to retake my MCAT before applying to MAMS for 2010 b/c my previous MCAT score was a low 25R. Thanks for your advice.
Hi, with a 2.79 BCPM we would be looking for a very strong finish to your undergrad career. However as long as you Total GPA is >3.0 your application will recieve full consideration.
I was working on submitting my application for Fall 2010 and the instructions on the website asked us to use as much information from our AMCAS application as possible. Does this also include the personal statement? If not, what should I focus on for my personal statement. Thank you.
I have a 2.8 undergrad gpa and a 28 MCAT score. I really want to get into this program for the fall. Is this possible considering I don't meet the gpa minimum? I have clinical experience and have been volunteering. I have an explanation for my poor grades (not an excuse, and would like to know if you grant any exemptions.
I am in the process of applying to MAMS for the Fall of 2010. I am very excited about Loyola's program!
Concerning Letters of Recommendation, the website says we may submit letters written for medical school. My letters are stored at the Letter Service at my undergrad university and usually sent out as a letter packet. Does the MAMS program accept these letters directly from this service?
I am currently a Biomedical Engineering (BME) Major with a Minor in Philosophy and Sociology of Science. My BME degree is mostly based on Engineering, Physics and Mathematics. Will the MAMS program allow me to transition from Engineering to medical career.
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Where do the majority of MAMS student live? In the Rogers Park neighborhood or further out?
Edgewater for proximity to campus, a few in Roger's Park, though it's not the most student friendly, or safest. Some live in Wrigleyville. Given what I know now about the Chicago area, best place to live is a few stops down the Red line at Berwyn or Bryn Mawr stops, in Andersonville. Quiet little residential neighborhood, and not that expensive (newly rehabbed 3 beds for $1550). Although it's entirely up to whether or not you want to commute on the train, or even by car if you had one.
Thank you for your interest in the MA in Medical Sciences Program. The average age of our students is early to mid-twenties. Additionally, we don't have admissions interviews and admissions is based on the materials supplied in the application. Also, graduate student housing is available (click here for details: http://www.luc.edu/reslife/llcs/#grad ). Most students, however, decide to get an off-campus apartment. It is common for students to apply to the MAMS program in their glide year or if they've been unsuccessful in previous med school applications. I hope this information helps, but if you have more questions, don't hesitate to call or email us.
Lizette Yackle
Administrative Assistant to the Program Director
Master of Arts in Medical Sciences
Loyola University Chicago
6525 N. Sheridan Rd.
Chicago, IL 60626
Office: Damen Hall Rm. 330D
Phone: 773-508-3285
When will applications become available for Fall 2010?
Should I apply to Loyola Medical School before I apply to the MAMS program?
Is it true that while those with a 3.5 are guaranteed interviews that the majority of them are rejected from Loyola. Can you give me a percentage of how many students get into Medical School in the United States the following spring right after graduation from the MAMS. For example If I were to join the program in Fall 2010, What are my chances of entering medical school in the UNITED STATES in Fall 2011?
Hi, Applications for the August 2010 incoming class will be available Jan 1, 2010. A link saying “Apply Now” is always on our website but it only goes live after Jan 1.
Hi,
The most successful students in the program in terms of admission (to SSOM or otherwise) have a solid MAMS performance, an MCAT retake with improved performance if needed, and dedicated clinical volunteering/community service portfolios. Our successful students live in the small world of class, library, hospital, community service center. Our SSOM connection is not a "backstop" interaction, you need to use your MAMS year to develop the most compelling application in a dedicated and driven fashion.
Usually about 50% of our students qualify for the interview in terms of incoming MCAT and MAMS GPA, a fairly high number of those students with active "year of MAMS" applications get admitted to medical school and withdraw from consideration, and so ultimately 15% to 20% of the class is admitted depending on year. But with an overall admission rate ranging between 80-95% from cohort to cohort almost all students not admitted to SSOM end up in a wonderful medical school.
This program is not for the student looking for the "backdoor" to medical school. Our approach is helping you become the student, scholar and volunteer you need to be to enter one of many medical school front doors, and then become a committed and highly successful M1 student. We are a program of challenging learning and individual transformation...keeping with Loyola's Jesuit educational ethos.
We help our students understand that success in life is about asking what more we can do, how else can we change, what more can we sacrifice. So we really are about internal drives and committment..not external forces and chance, because it is our experience that students that have their internals right ultimately succeed. I hope this helps you decide which type of program is best for you. Our high success rate is ultimately due to the spirit and drive of the young people who make our MAMS community special.
Dr. Pickett,
That was a very insightful and well thought out answer! I have never wanted to attend MAMS more than I do now. The only thing holding me back is I wanted to clear something up. If I enter the program this upcoming fall and re-apply to med school when applications come out in early June, What is the chance I can start med school in fall 2010? What confuses me is that I will essentially be applying with the same application as last year except now, I would be able to put that I have the intent of doing the MAMS, Will this help me at all? Will med schools even take this into consideration considering the fact that I haven't proven anything yet and I have no grades from the program yet?
Dr. Pickett
I might graduate in the summer but am not sure if I will? Should I apply to MAMS? I have not take MCAT yet but will take in May
Hi,
I just applied to the MAMS for fall 2009 and I was wondering how big the class size is. I suppose I'm wondering what my chances of acceptance are based on how many people apply and how many seats are available for this program. Thanks for your help!
Hi, Sorry I have been a slow blog correspondent lately, I hope to do a bit of catch up....
Re. the question: " What is the chance that I can start med school in fall 2010..." So we describe this as "a year of the program" application to medical school. We usually discourage these types of applications because, as the poster notes, medical schools won't have solid evidence of a good academic turn around or Chicago clinical experiences..so not much will have changed since the previous application. We strongly encourage students to apply using Loyola's pre-health program at the end of their MAMS program. The combination of MAMS plus the Pre-Health Advising Committee is fantastic for helping students build their best applications. Students who have active applications coming into MAMS obviously don't benefit from doing our PHAC advising process (it starts in February for the June AMCAS application) and their application, key advising contacts and letters are all through their undergraduate institution...
Now...with the above being said, students who apply during MAMS do have a ~60% success rate for medical school admission but..these are usually not to their first choice schools...so..patience really pays off. Taking the glide year after MAMS is a fantastic learning opportunity and the students who use the program in the way it is designed (also being excited about studying for an MCAT retake if needed)do fantastically well. This year we have our first admit to Boston, students have just gotten in at UCLA, University of North Carolina, Iowa, Colorado etc. etc...but they waited, went full bore into volunteering, MCAT prep (often starting in September!!) and MAMS class study, and came out of the program as fundamentally different student applicants in the eyes of medical schools.
So..we really are a glide year program, and you really will do tons of volunteering and MCAT prep, if you want the best chance of admission to your dream school in the year following MAMS...but if for whatever reason you must have an active application while you are in MAMS we will help the best we can, do mock interviews with you and offer advising if your undergrad institution isn’t well prepared to do this (a surprising number aren’t, we know), etc..but you are almost certainly limiting your horizons. Trust us and trust yourself, you can do well in the program, you can have dramatic changes in MCAT scores (we have routinely seen students go from, for instance, 28 pre MAMS to 33 post MAMS, with diligent study) and you can develop Dr. Pickett’s patented and licensed “Facultative Maniacal Focus on Study and Volunteering” :-) as you engage with MAMS and your classmates on your path to medical school.
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Re “I might graduate” You are certainly welcome to apply and put summer as your graduation date. A May or June take of the MCAT is OK…but often our class if 80-90% filled by that point. I still encourage you to apply however because we will start your file review and because some of our admitted students inevitably get admitted to medical school very late, so we do sometimes have a few seats that open up late in summer.. Thus although pushing things later will make admission to the program less likely, we have certainly found room for students in some years.
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Re “I just applied” The class size is limited to 55 students, very rarely, because we have a high percentage of acceptances from students who are admitted, we will overshoot a tiny bit and allow one or two extra students. Last year we had 680 applicants, our average MCAT was right at 30.8 and our average science GPA was a 3.4…currently we are one of the most competitive SMS/MAMS programs for admission in the U.S. However, we are always looking for the “person for others” whose excellent character, volunteerism, and community service harmonizes well with Loyola’s Jesuit mission. So…remember that “average” means there is a distribution and that numbers alone (as long as you surpass our minimums) don’t dictate our admission decision. Be sure to follow our website instructions about your application to the program carefully, to give us the best chance of understanding you fully as a candidate. Please, (please!)complete your application as early as possible, we are still experiencing 30% year over year growth in application numbers (we should hit 800 applications this year) so getting your file complete early is important.
Well, Thank you all for your awesome questions, I hope the above helped…Warm regards, Dr. P.
I have already sent my letters of recommendation via my school's letter service and I did not realize there was a sheet for the letter writers on the application website. Is this crucial or will my letters be okay just being sent without that sheet?
Hi, I am very excited to apply to this program as I have heard many great things about it and I have high hopes to become a part of the upcoming class. I am planning to take the MCAT in May, and I have seen above that taking the MCAT in May is considered a little late as 80-90% of the class is filled at that point. But you did mention that you will start a file review - Does this mean that if I send in my application by April but without the MCAT score, it will be reviewed, but maybe put on hold for a final decision until my score is reported in June?
Hi,
Letters that arrive independently of the cover sheet usually end up in your file just fine. However, definitely e-mail the nice folks at gradapp@luc.edu to check for sure. Your application is not assembled by my office...it is assembled at "Graduate and Professional Enrollment Management" (whew...aka Graduate Admissions)so they can tell you what is and isn't in your file.
re. "My MCAT is going to be later" well it can certainly reduce your likelihood for admission...but sending an application in early means we see it and you can add to it. Unfortunately some folks wait until after July 1st to even submit their app...and then things get extremely problematic...so apply early but let us know in your statement that another MCAT is on its way.
Regards
Dr. P.
Thanks for your reply! I'll definitely be applying early as possible then and send my MCAT score when it arrives - This is a great blog and I will definitely return!
I'm glad I found this blog - It has been really helpful, thank you!
I'm interested to hear what kind of volunteer efforts and projects students of the MAMS have been involved with? I am not from Chicago, and am wondering what strong community connections are available to aid in the “Facultative Maniacal Focus on Study and Volunteering”?
Also, I can see the benefit of a "glide" year after the MAMS program...what do students usually do to support themselves financially during that time?
Thank you for your help!
How many students from last years class(2008) were accepted into stritch?
If I am taking my MCAT at the very beginning of May, would you recommend applying for the priority deadline of May 15 if I have everything else but that score ready to go?
Dear Dr. Wasserman,
The scores for the June 18 MCAT are tentatively scheduled to be released July 21 (per AAMC). Even if I had my application (sans MCAT score) in by the middle of this April, is a July 21 MCAT score release simply too late for fall 2009 admission consideration? I know you are already touched on this above, but my score would arrive after the app deadline (July 15). Same question if I took the July 2nd MCAT (score release, Aug 4th).
Additionally, could you comment on if the MAMS admissions committee averages GPAs from baccalaureate work and post-baccalaureate work? If one of the two GPAs (either undergrad or post-bac) is under a 3.0, how is a situation like this handled? If this were the case, could published clinical research and a long record of clinical volunteering help the applicant? The Loyola MAMS website appears to be clear that any GPA lower than 3.0 will not be considered.
Thank you,
Northwestern Post-bac student
Dr. Pickett…deep in writing letters of recommendation…says
Hi folks, sorry for the delay,
Note to Amanda,
The volunteering projects and programs that the MAMS students have been involved have an interesting “Red Line of the Elevated” character. Students routinely volunteer at:
Community Health Clinic
http://www.communityhealth.org/volunteers/
Children’s Memorial Hospital http://www.childrensmemorial.org/friends/vol_res/becoming.aspx
Weiss Memorial Hospital
http://www.weisshospital.com/community/volunteer.cfm
Evanston Hospital
http://www.northshore.org/clinicalservices/homehealth/hospice/default.aspx?id=4959
Old Irving Park Community Clinic
http://oipcc.org/AboutusENG.html
Saint Francis Hospital
http://www.reshealth.org/sub_sfh/sfhservices/service_detail.cfm?rhcServiceID=139
Illinois Masonic Medical Center
http://www.advocatehealth.com/immc/about/volunteer.html
and many other uiversity and community hospitals and clinics.
On a side note, we provide opportunities to meet volunteer coordinators for area hospitals and clinics during our orientation program. It is great to reach out to these groups when you first arrive at Chicago to begin the volunteer orientation and training process. It can take up to a month to get trained!! So start early. As a caution, we do not provide “canned” volunteering experiences as feed back from admissions deans tells us they tend not to place a high value of experiences that don’t speak to each student’s drive and dedication to service. But we provide tons of information and encouragement as you build the unique volunteering experiences that speak to how you care and who you are.
In addition to clinical volunteering our students have volunteered at numerous Chicago organizations that provide homework help, food services, literacy training, AIDS clinic babysitting, Cancer Hospice and other types of community service. Opportunities to serve in Chicago are literally limitless. Students who are dogged in pursuing volunteering opportunities have wonderful clinical and community service portfolios by the time they leave MAMS.
Glide year students work locally and nationally as:
Research techs, Clinical Studies coordinators, Educators, Pharmaceutical Reps, Hospital workers, Rehabilitation Assts. Etc…we have heard of tons of opportunities that our students have been able to pursue. The job market is clearly challenging right now, but our students have an outstanding history of success in this regard.
The admissions cycle is still ongoing…so we don’t know for sure what the ultimate number of students admitted to SSOM will be. Currently the 2007-2008 class has over 75% of students admitted to medical school…and so they are on track to an outstanding admissions season (Go MAMS 07-08 if any of you are reading!!! yay teamMAMS!!). Each class does vary and each student depends on their own motivation and efforts for ultimate success…but MAMS has proven to be a great vehicle for our usual highly driven students to find success in medical school admission and in developing the tools and knowledge needed to succeed in medical school. I wish I could “calculate the odds” for each student but…ultimately it comes down to individual drive, focus, determination and guts…coupled with our academic and advising program…so, hope that helps.
Always complete as much of your application as you possibly can, as soon as you possibly can. State in your personal statement for the application that you are doing a May MCAT take. The scholarship committee can’t consider you until you are admitted, and we can’t admit you without your MCAT score…but…getting everything else together is extremely important. Scholarship decisions are not made until later in summer, and so even if you are not a scholarship priority candidate a good scholarship outcome is still possible. If you are admitted get the scholarship form in ASAP and stress you “persons for others, Jesuit mission”ness and be as detailed as possible about family and individual need. All grad students have $0.00 banked but stress your financial history. Get your FAFSA in pronto as well
Admissions is done looking at students as “the whole package”…however program minimums really are minimums and the class has, on average, solid GPA and MCAT scores. A GPA below a 3.0 is not admissible to our program, per instructions we must follow from the Graduate School. We use all courses, undergrad and post bac to calculate an aggregate GPA, and we calculate science GPAs following AAMC/AMCAS guidelines. This is something that adds considerable time to our review process…as we research and review courses in each student’s transcript. If the overall GPA is below a 3.0 we don’t even get the file for review, it is triaged because of the admission standards of the Graduate School, so our reviewers don’t get the opportunity to weigh things like clinical research and volunteering. Students in this situation are well served to consider as an alternative to MAMS repeating the core “MCAT minimum” courses from their undergraduate program at another four year university, and then applying as returning students to medical school. We can help you demonstrate that one “C” in organic as an undergraduate was not who you are as a student, but we aren’t the right program if you have mostly Cs in science courses…our program requires a stronger academic foundation, and we don’t believe in setting students up to fail.
Well, I hope that helps, thank you for all your excellent questions.
Warm regards
Dr. P.
Hello all potential MAMSers. Dr. Wasserman has turned over this Blogsite to me. I am the Graduate Program Director for the M.A. in Medical Sciences at Loyola University Chicago.
Hi again! I have a question about the letters of recommendation: My recommender would like to send the letter directly to the program. At the bottom of the recommendation form in the application, it says that the letter should be sent to the student with a signature across the sealed envelope flap. Is it possible for her to just just send it directly to the MAMS program? If so, what is the mailing address? Thank you =)
For any recommender who would like to submit a letter directly to the MAMS program, they can send the letter to:
Graduate Enrollment Admissions
820 N. Michigan
Chicago, IL 60611
Also, any other materials that a prospective applicant would like to submit via mail should be sent to that address as well. If you would like to submit a document electronically, it should be sent to gradapp@luc.edu.
If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to call our office or email us.
Cordially,
Anwar Akhras
Administrative Assistant to the Program Director
Master of Arts in Medical Sciences
Loyola University Chicago
6525 N. Sheridan Rd.
Chicago, IL 60626
Office: Life Sciences Research and Education Building Rm. 343
Phone: 773-508-3285
Hi Folks, I have had a number of room mate requests.
There are two popular appt buildings right north of campus, here is their contact information. Both have good reps, i.e. new faculty have stayed in them as short term housing, last year MAMSters liked them etc.
Campus Towers
1033 W. Loyola Ave.
LDP Management
(773) 764-9510
1 & 2 Bdrm Apts
1026 & 1006 W. Loyola Ave.
(773) 386-7178
Studio & 1 Bdrm Apts
I thought I would also toss up a web URL from students last year who found this appt. building to be convenient. It is also across from the Metropolis cafe, which transforms mere coffee into ambrosia daily.
http://www.thesovereign.com/default.htm
Good luck with the hunt, I will post other ideas as they pop into my brain.
Actually, to give my fellow caffiends something to anticipate with relish (my office has my espresso maker in it, I am an addict, but admission is the first step to healing) here is metropolis' web URL. Trust me, yum! Neighborhood is "OK" by Chi-town standards but extremely close to grocery shopping, own red line stop, two blocks from awesome lakefront park..etc. Like all parts of the city, caution and friends are good to have around you when you travel :-).
http://www.metropoliscoffee.com/
This place is a great hang out!
Can MAMS students live in the Lakeshore campus residence halls? If so, which ones are most suitable (IE most popular among MAMS students, closest to campus).
I have been accepted to the special masters program at both Rosalind Franklin and Loyola and I was wondering if someone could share their insight on how these teo programs stack up. This kind of info doesnt appear to be readily available.
http://groups.google.com/group/mams-2009-2010?hl=en
Is this how you make a google group? I certainly hope so. Post away!
Hi Folks, two quick answers,
MAMS students can apply for graduate housing
http://www.luc.edu/reslife/halls.shtml#grad
But most find much cheaper and more convenient housing by sharing in Rogers Park. I notice above just started a Yahoo Group...leave a roommate request there. Also you can leave requests on this board as well.
In terms of comparing RFUMS and our program...I leave that to other folks...our program is not based in a med school and is focused around student collaboration and support. We have a dedicated advising staff that serves only our program, so between me, our advisor and the program assistant we are serving only 55 students...so there is lots of personal attention to student needs. Our courses are exclusive to MAMS students and so there is a very collegial and supportive atmosphere.
You mentioned that the bare minimum GPA is 3.0. Is this an automatic computerized elimination of all GPA's below that threshold, or is it possible to consider a GPA of 2.996 ?
Thanks.
Is there also a cut off for the MCAT score. I have a decent GPA well above 3.0 but i have borderline MCAT score?Will that affect my application?
I have a question about GPA calculation. If you attended two undergrad colleges, do you combine both GPAs to get total GPA or are they reported separtely. Mine was just under the 3.0 cutoff at the college I graduated from and well above 3.0 at the other. If I combine them, then I am above the 3.0 cutoff.
I have a question, My science GPA is a 2.79 and my overall gpa is a 3.24, I have yet to take the MCAT but was wondering, if the 3.00 cutoff was for science/cumulative or either?
For those of you already accepted for the 2009-2010 school year, we have a facebook group started. Either search for "Loyola MAMS 2009-2010" or copy and paste the link below.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?sid=0751c25901b7e1a0e996b2b41e90881b&gid=34576764990&ref=search
Is this blog still active???
Hi folks, sorry! The blog has not been getting required love lately, we are in our major application crush right now and are trying to get the last group of admits done over the next month or so. Hopefully I can do a bit of catch up.
A 2.996 GPA would likely be curved by our graduate school…if you have a strong MCAT and excellent volunteering alert us early about your application. It is not a very strong GPA in relation to our pool of admits…but if “the rest of the story” is you are a fantastic applicant it is possible. The best thing to do is complete the application and give me lots of warning..communicating early and often with the program at MAMS@luc.edu is important in borderline cases.
Our 3.00 cut off applies to the overall GPA, although we look strongly at both total and trends in the BCPM. Historically the means for both grades in the program have hovered right around 3.25…so a 2.79 would be in the bottom half of the lowest quartile of the average MAMS class.
All undergraduate transcripts are used to calculate grades, we follow the AAMC AMCAS guidelines for grade calculation.
On the MCAT side it is very difficult, a 25 really is our rock bottom minimum for review of an application. Given the fact that a 30.9 is the average of matriculated students for medical school (this is also close to the MAMS program average) a student with a 25 really needs to be outstanding in every other category to be competitive. We really try to be holistic in our reviews, but more than a standard deviation below the mean of admitted students means the student is looking at something like a p of .025 for being interviewed for allopathic medical school. Certainly a strong stated commitment in the application about your plan for MCAT prep during the MAMS year (we encourage students with below the mean MCATs to prepare for the exam over the nine months of the program) would be extremely important in this case. Often students don’t even address their strengths and weaknesses in applications, which is confusing to us and I certainly encourage this, particularly for applicants with grades and scores near our program minimums.
Hope the above offers some helpful insight into our processes…good luck 2009 applicants!!
Warm regards
Dr. P.
Aloha everybody! My name is Jake Halvorsen. I am a recent graduate of LUC and will be in the MAMS program for the 2009-2010 school year. I thought I would leave myself open for questions as well, considering I know the LUC system pretty well. If you have any questions about the Rogers Park area, move in questions, or just general Chicago questions, please feel free to e-mail me at jhalvo1@luc.edu or jhalvo1@gmail.com. I will check this quite frequently so feel free to post on here as well if you have any questions! See you all very soon!
Hi Folks,
Here is the course list for Fall...if you haven't seen my newsletter yet. Don't forget to alert me or gradapp@luc.edu that you have decided to accept your admit to the program. That triggers a flood of useful info...
BIOL 409, Advanced Genetics, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 9656
BIOL 452, Human Anatomy and Physiology, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 6838
PHIL 471, Medical Ethics, Section 002 SEM, LOCUS course number 9188 (you must use this number, the course appears as BIOL 401 on your transcript)
BIOL 410, Advanced Cell Biology, Section number 001-LEC, LOCUS course number 9657
Have an excellent day, and "welcome!!" to all of the folks who have accepted an offer of admission recently!! I look forward to meeting you during orientation!!! Dr. P.
Hello,
I understand that the medical school accepts Biochem instead of organic 2 as a substitute?
Does MAMS have the same policy?
I am a nontraditional student and do not live in Chicago area. I am interested in the program, but need to talk to someone involved in the MAMS program and someone in financial aid to help make my decision to apply. I can make a trip to Chicago as early as July 12-14th 2009.
Hi Folks,
We generally assume that the "MCAT minimum" courses (i.e. two semesters of organic plus lab) have been completed..primarily because how these courses prepare you for our coursework in Cell Biology and Biochemistry. We will however look at all applicants...it is not a hard and fast requirement.
Because of the huge number of applicants and small size of the program staff (plus our summers are when our committee letters for previous students are composed etc.)and the fact that only 55 seats are available in the program we have not really been able to realistically do an interview process after our first year...The numbers of applicants are simply overwhelming. If you give us a heads up about dates we can certainly arrange a campus tour and can occasionally chat with visitors, I really worry that students making a special trip to town to chat will be disappointed that they aren't greeted by an extensive interview process, and will usually have questions answered that are already answered by our detailed and comprehensive program and university web materials. We will also chat with folks by phone if their questions aren't already addressed by our extensive website, this blog, or our other resources, however, and will chat in person if schedules mesh. Sorry to be a bit offputting...but 800 candidates individually interviewing one Dr. Pickett, mostly during May, June and July just isn't workable..so contacting us with questions by e-mail first or phone is best. I understand the urge to come and "kick the tires" but the best thing I can point to is the wonderful success of our past students, and my assurance that if we admit you we have seen the qualities that we can help you develop and build into a medical school application with a high probability of success. Further, at this point we would only be able to accept a late application with an extensive justification of the reason it is late...The deadline to accept admissions is approaching rapidly. The deadline for completing the admission process was July 1st...of course if you are interested in admission for Fall 2010 those applications "go Live" on January 1st, 2010.
Take care
Dr. P.
Hi Everyone,
I would like to ask whether or not anyone would recommend the Sovereign apartment complex 2 blocks south of the Lakeshore campus? If anyone has useful information about it can you please share it with us? Thank you!
The Sovereign is not a bad place to stay at all. Our class had 5 of us staying there. It's very convenient being close to campus, to the Red line, and to several of the bus lines.
http://www.thesovereign.com/apartments.htm
Pros: The renovated hotel is a cool place to live. They have 24/7 door security and maintenance. Electric and water are paid for with your rent. Management is usually accessible and willing to help. Rent is competitive for the area if you don't get lake view. Walking distance to Dominicks grocery store, dry cleaners across the street, Metropolis coffee shop, and a video rental store. Close to a Zipcar parking lot, if you need a car occasionally but don't want to bring your own. Lakeshore biking and running trail head is 0.5 mile south.
Cons: It is an old building, so phone lines (and DSL lines, if you go that route) are good, but not excellent. Maintenance can be a bit sloppy and tends to rush repairs. Parking sucks in this area. $105/month for residents. $20/night for guests to not park on the streets. The neighborhood can be suboptimal as well: many homeless people beg near the Red line stop, and female students have been targets of muggings and attempted muggings in the area, especially at night, though I've never been bothered.
I had a positive experience at the Sovereign and would recommend it.
Jon Ashton
Class of '09
Hey Jon,
Thank you so much for your quick reply. That definitely is going to help me make an informed decision!
Hi,
Have all the seats been filled for the 2009-2010 class or are acceptance letters still being sent out?
Hi, quick note regarding open seats. We do have some open seats, and will be continuing to admit students.
Loyola grad office sent out an email today regarding buying our text books for the upcoming semester. They included a link to the Loyola bookstore, but if you go there, no listings exist for the fall semester. Unless, someone can post a list of books that are used by each class, getting text books will have to wait.
Hi Folks,
Our new bookstore won't have the list available until July 27th, under their new system faculty submit book requests to them directly. Given summer, and some of our faculty being out of the country, unfortunately I won't have a list before the bookstore posts it...so we are all waiting until July 27th. Sorry, I know this is a concern, I have already had a few e-mails. My book in Genetics is Human Molecular Genetics 3rd edition from Garland publishing....but in terms of the other books...no info.
Regards,
Dr. P.
Hello Dr. Pickett,
I was hoping that you could give me some advise on my situation. My application for the program is still under review, and I have a pending acceptance from another special master program that I need to send in a deposit to confirm my acceptance very soon. However, loyola is my top choice so I am not sure if there is anything that I can do at this point to help my case. Please let me know.
Thank you
Hey everyone,
I just wanted to tell you that I just checked the Loyola bookstore online and the textbooks for fall 09 are now available.
Anyone looking for last-minute housing, we're trying to get a 3 bedroom place this weekend. Call 214-602-1770 or 760-634-2898. I am Colin, the other guy is Mike.
Can we buy our textbooks a week before class when we move in, or do we need to order them online in advance in order to guarantee they will be in stock?
Will we be finding out soon whether or not we've recieved a scholarship?
Hi Folks,
I wanted to get it out that we have awarded the MAMS scholarships. This was exceptional year for applicants, and our decision ended up being to award partial scholarships to six students. These awards exhaust our available funds. Thank you to all enrolled students who applied.
Regards
Dr. P.
Hi, sorry I missed this. Our bookstore stocks all books for our courses...so they should have plenty available for purchase...
Their online store is at
http://www.bkstr.com/Home/10001-95904-1?demoKey=d
and the text books for the courses will be listed on each classes site.
Hi Y'all,
I will be moving to town on August 18th. If anybody is moving in after that and is looking for moving help, just let me know. If you're looking to hang out, I will be happy to do that as well. My phone number is 847-738-0101!
Hi Everybody!
I will also be moving to town on August 18th. I'm still looking for a place, so if anyone's in the same boat give me a call. I've mostly been looking for rooms on craigslist, but I would be willing to live with other MAMS students if anyone is still in need of a roommate. I'm coming from Portland, OR so Chicago's going to be a big jump for me. Give me a call if you need a roommate or if you just want to hang out before classes start (916)342-0194.
Greetings. I was recently accepted to the MAMS program (this morning, actually), so I'm kind of in a time crunch to get things in order with respect to living arrangements.
I'm wondering if anyone is still looking for a roommate in an area near LUC. Please contact me at diabecktic@gmail.com; I can give you my phone number afterwards.
Thanks!
Ryan.
Hi Everyone! I wanted to know if anyone was from California and had Kaiser health insurance. Were you able to get a form from Kaiser saying that they would cover medical bills and expenses even if you are living in Chicago? Just curious!
Hi there,
Can I apply to Loyola MAMS program if my AAMC BCPM cGPA is 2.79? My AAMC AO cGPA is 3.64 and my Total AAMC cGPA is 3.17. However, I am planning to retake my MCAT before applying to MAMS for 2010 b/c my previous MCAT score was a low 25R. Thanks for your advice.
Hi, with a 2.79 BCPM we would be looking for a very strong finish to your undergrad career. However as long as you Total GPA is >3.0 your application will recieve full consideration.
Hello Dr. Pickett,
I was working on submitting my application for Fall 2010 and the instructions on the website asked us to use as much information from our AMCAS application as possible. Does this also include the personal statement? If not, what should I focus on for my personal statement.
Thank you.
I have a 2.8 undergrad gpa and a 28 MCAT score. I really want to get into this program for the fall. Is this possible considering I don't meet the gpa minimum? I have clinical experience and have been volunteering. I have an explanation for my poor grades (not an excuse, and would like to know if you grant any exemptions.
Dr. Pickett,
I am in the process of applying to MAMS for the Fall of 2010. I am very excited about Loyola's program!
Concerning Letters of Recommendation, the website says we may submit letters written for medical school. My letters are stored at the Letter Service at my undergrad university and usually sent out as a letter packet. Does the MAMS program accept these letters directly from this service?
Thanks for your help!
I am currently a Biomedical Engineering (BME) Major with a Minor in Philosophy and Sociology of Science.
My BME degree is mostly based on Engineering, Physics and Mathematics.
Will the MAMS program allow me to transition from Engineering to medical career.
Anyone interested in a single bedroom apartment only a two minute walk to Loyola.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/apa/1856885319.html
Fellow MAMS apartment for lease.
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